Correction: 6-10-17 After seeing this again, Zeus did die by Ares. Stef was still won’t because he died after the battle. Knowing he wouldn’t be around if Ares …
I'm reviewing this video because a friend told me I needed to watch it so I could see how awful Molyneux is. There are so many criticisms I have of Jim Jesus. If you just listen to the cadence of his voice and compare it to Molyneux, it's clear who the superior speaker is. He puts the camera at an angle where he talks down at us, both literally and figuratively. He constantly says Molyneux makes stuff up and lies, but there's no sources for me to validate this. Why should I trust someone who doesn't do his due diligence? Jim says Molyneux didn't watch the movie, while the evidence suggests Molyneux did and just sees the movie colored by his own world view, just like everyone else. The main problem with Jim Jesus is his overly simplistic theory of other minds. He should be employing Sun Tzu's "Know your enemy" rather than turning him into a caricature. This poorly stuctured video drags on for ~33 minutes to review a comparitively well organized ~10 minute video. Next time he should get the transcript of the video he's criticising, collect some sources, then write an outline before turing on the camera. It's unclear if Jim Jesus disagrees with everything Molyneux said in the video he's responding to or if he's just glossing over the points he thinks Molyneux got right. There are plenty of good arguments against Molyneux and this guy isn't delivering them here. He's attacking one of Molyneux's weaker videos, what about his masterpieces like his series on Ayn Rand, Socrates, Spanking, and the Bomb in the Brain? Would a criticism of Newton's beliefs in alchemy detract from his theories of motion?
I had to watch the intro scenes (with the mythology) again to confirm and you are correct. Humankind was tempted by Areas into war (and the imagery shows both men and women), and the Gods created the Amazons to influence humans back into peace.
Jim claims the Wonder Woman movie is not feminist messaging and isn't anti-male but it's FULL of these themes so much that I couldn't keep up with them or remember them all. Click view more to see the list that I can come up with off the top of my head: -The ultimate villain figure of the movie is male. -The movie attacks marriage in the boat travel scene directly. -It depicts early 1900's as not having a focus on family or marriage as no one asks Diana if she is married and why not. No one really says "families" when it comes to war casualties but they do mention "women and children", as if no men are part of that equation unless they are on the battlefield. -It depicts men in the war as savage, uncaring, cowardly and murderous when that generation were highly protective of women and virtuous towards them.
I won't bother to keep going but it's really an anti-male film on steroids and it hides that cleverly by playing on people's lack of historical and cultural knowledge of the time period in which it savagely depicts as a horrible culture and period. The bottom line is that this movie was screaming virtue signaling within most of the scenes for feminists.
Based on just your analysis, Stefan says the movie contains heavy handed propaganda, and you say it does not, and I believe you. However, by your own description, it contains more subtle and more sophisticated feminist propaganda, which you deny, and it sounds like it contains other kinds of propaganda too. I explain such techniques in my article, "Arrival — Masterful NWO Propaganda." http://endofinnocence.com/arrival-alien-nwo-propaganda-nationalism/
This is similar to his video on Dear White People. The movie mentioned wan't even sjw. He only watched the previews. At the end of the day he just wants to fear monger for money.
You say this story is pretty true to the original story, and you say that the guy who originally created the Wonder Woman character wanted society to be a matriarchy, and you also say this is not at all propaganda?!
You say that Wonder Woman spares the villain's life because Aires (a man) caused the villain (a woman) to be bad, but that is the premise in 99% of the stories I have seen on TV. On TV, it is almost always a man who does something bad, and even when a woman does something bad, it was because a man caused her to do it. You can argue that they are gods and not men and women all you want, but that is not how most will see it, and thus the propaganda is typical and effective.
You expect the viewer to understand chemistry to understand why the hydrogen based poison would be lighter than air and flammable?! Not only is that an unreasonable expectation, but you yourself do not understand basic chemistry. "Hydrogen-based" does not equal hydrogen. Water is hydrogen-based. Is water lighter than air? Is water flammable?
If it is not propaganda, then why does it portray mankind as needing women to teach us how to not make war? It is dishonest of you to argue that they are not actually women when you know that most people will see them as women — even those who know intellectually that the story says otherwise, and thus the propaganda will be effective. She looks like a woman. Her name is WonderWOMAN. Her other name, "Diana", is a woman's name. You seem to be using the same kind of misdirection that Stefan Molyneux uses. You are just taking the left side of the left-right psyop; whereas, Stefan takes the right. Also, does it portray war as resulting to any degree from how females of most species are genetically programmed to want to be impregnated by the victor of a fight between males Yeah … That's what I thought.
do you know you fucking moron why it's ok to have a male hero and it's not so ok to have a female hero?
because we know we are bad, meaning that we know that at times we are demanded to do bad things, but the hero expiate all for us and we men while doing terrible things get back some humanity.
why is not so ok to have a female hero you moron??
because females preach from a moral high ground because females are NOT demanded to do bad things they are only there spitting out judgements.
THAT'S WHY MORON! As long as female preach from a moral high ground while they never have to get their hands dirty they can stuff their morality up their asses.
That's why!
get it moron??
this movie pushes all the right male hero's buttons shame it's a female character, that's why it cons cretins like you.
go back to elementary school, go and do some basic studies because you are an idiot!
fuck mate I can't go further than a couple of your sentences you are a moron. 33 minutes of this crap? how long did it take to you to edit this crap 33 minutes 5 seconds??
it's not a society without men that makes it a paradise it's a society without man??
if you said male maybe it would have made sense and then how different is men and man (I assume humans) when then there are only men that fight and are the villains and get killed??
Actually not only are the males that get killed the only supposedly vicious female is Dr poison who comes out as an Ares victim (another male) who is then spared because vagina.. while the second rate hero has to die because penis..
what the fuck are you talking about free beer are you fucking drunk?? what fuck of an analogy is that? one from a moron.
you are an idiot mate, just because you do not understand what Stefan says in his video about that movie, it does not mean he is wrong and you are right.
you are just an idiot with a smaller brain that's all
Moly makes his living begging on the internet. He goes wherever the begging is best, his current incarnation as the Canadian Milo or Alex Jones is working. He had tapped out the teenage male Ayn Rand fan. Phoolosify indeed.
HEY DUMBASS !!! THERE IS A SCENE WHEN THEY ARE ON THE BOAT. WONDER WOMAN SAID THAT MEN ARE ONLY GOOD FOR PROCREATION !!!! I THOUGHT THAT IS A WHAT WOMAN ARE ONLY GOOD FOR !!!
cr4yv3n
It's not the feminist crap that is the problem. It is the acctress is a war criminal.
Ryan Smith
I'm reviewing this video because a friend told me I needed to watch it so I could see how awful Molyneux is.
There are so many criticisms I have of Jim Jesus. If you just listen to the cadence of his voice and compare it to Molyneux, it's clear who the superior speaker is. He puts the camera at an angle where he talks down at us, both literally and figuratively. He constantly says Molyneux makes stuff up and lies, but there's no sources for me to validate this. Why should I trust someone who doesn't do his due diligence? Jim says Molyneux didn't watch the movie, while the evidence suggests Molyneux did and just sees the movie colored by his own world view, just like everyone else. The main problem with Jim Jesus is his overly simplistic theory of other minds. He should be employing Sun Tzu's "Know your enemy" rather than turning him into a caricature. This poorly stuctured video drags on for ~33 minutes to review a comparitively well organized ~10 minute video. Next time he should get the transcript of the video he's criticising, collect some sources, then write an outline before turing on the camera. It's unclear if Jim Jesus disagrees with everything Molyneux said in the video he's responding to or if he's just glossing over the points he thinks Molyneux got right. There are plenty of good arguments against Molyneux and this guy isn't delivering them here. He's attacking one of Molyneux's weaker videos, what about his masterpieces like his series on Ayn Rand, Socrates, Spanking, and the Bomb in the Brain? Would a criticism of Newton's beliefs in alchemy detract from his theories of motion?
Julien Couvreur
I had to watch the intro scenes (with the mythology) again to confirm and you are correct. Humankind was tempted by Areas into war (and the imagery shows both men and women), and the Gods created the Amazons to influence humans back into peace.
Bill Sam
Doesn't water have hydrogen in it? I'm confused about your hydrogen based thing.
superjam18
When you are married to an ideology it is difficult to see the truth
Tang Sensational
Jim claims the Wonder Woman movie is not feminist messaging and isn't anti-male but it's FULL of these themes so much that I couldn't keep up with them or remember them all. Click view more to see the list that I can come up with off the top of my head:
-The ultimate villain figure of the movie is male.
-The movie attacks marriage in the boat travel scene directly.
-It depicts early 1900's as not having a focus on family or marriage as no one asks Diana if she is married and why not. No one really says "families" when it comes to war casualties but they do mention "women and children", as if no men are part of that equation unless they are on the battlefield.
-It depicts men in the war as savage, uncaring, cowardly and murderous when that generation were highly protective of women and virtuous towards them.
I won't bother to keep going but it's really an anti-male film on steroids and it hides that cleverly by playing on people's lack of historical and cultural knowledge of the time period in which it savagely depicts as a horrible culture and period. The bottom line is that this movie was screaming virtue signaling within most of the scenes for feminists.
Google Videos
33 minutes to explain that you don't know what an allegory is hahaha
Future Jim
Based on just your analysis, Stefan says the movie contains heavy handed propaganda, and you say it does not, and I believe you. However, by your own description, it contains more subtle and more sophisticated feminist propaganda, which you deny, and it sounds like it contains other kinds of propaganda too. I explain such techniques in my article, "Arrival — Masterful NWO Propaganda." http://endofinnocence.com/arrival-alien-nwo-propaganda-nationalism/
John Smith
This is similar to his video on Dear White People. The movie mentioned wan't even sjw. He only watched the previews. At the end of the day he just wants to fear monger for money.
Future Jim
You say this story is pretty true to the original story, and you say that the guy who originally created the Wonder Woman character wanted society to be a matriarchy, and you also say this is not at all propaganda?!
Future Jim
You say that Wonder Woman spares the villain's life because Aires (a man) caused the villain (a woman) to be bad, but that is the premise in 99% of the stories I have seen on TV. On TV, it is almost always a man who does something bad, and even when a woman does something bad, it was because a man caused her to do it. You can argue that they are gods and not men and women all you want, but that is not how most will see it, and thus the propaganda is typical and effective.
Future Jim
You expect the viewer to understand chemistry to understand why the hydrogen based poison would be lighter than air and flammable?! Not only is that an unreasonable expectation, but you yourself do not understand basic chemistry. "Hydrogen-based" does not equal hydrogen. Water is hydrogen-based. Is water lighter than air? Is water flammable?
Future Jim
Joe Rogan banned Stefan for lying? SWEET!
Future Jim
If it is not propaganda, then why does it portray mankind as needing women to teach us how to not make war? It is dishonest of you to argue that they are not actually women when you know that most people will see them as women — even those who know intellectually that the story says otherwise, and thus the propaganda will be effective. She looks like a woman. Her name is WonderWOMAN. Her other name, "Diana", is a woman's name. You seem to be using the same kind of misdirection that Stefan Molyneux uses. You are just taking the left side of the left-right psyop; whereas, Stefan takes the right. Also, does it portray war as resulting to any degree from how females of most species are genetically programmed to want to be impregnated by the victor of a fight between males Yeah … That's what I thought.
Canem Cave
do you know you fucking moron why it's ok to have a male hero and it's not so ok to have a female hero?
because we know we are bad, meaning that we know that at times we are demanded to do bad things, but the hero expiate all for us and we men while doing terrible things get back some humanity.
why is not so ok to have a female hero you moron??
because females preach from a moral high ground because females are NOT demanded to do bad things they are only there spitting out judgements.
THAT'S WHY MORON! As long as female preach from a moral high ground while they never have to get their hands dirty they can stuff their morality up their asses.
That's why!
get it moron??
this movie pushes all the right male hero's buttons shame it's a female character, that's why it cons cretins like you.
go back to elementary school, go and do some basic studies because you are an idiot!
Canem Cave
fuck mate I can't go further than a couple of your sentences you are a moron. 33 minutes of this crap? how long did it take to you to edit this crap 33 minutes 5 seconds??
and you have 1200 people that follow you??
Fuck this world is made of idiots!
what a fuck of a channel amazing
Canem Cave
it's not a society without men that makes it a paradise it's a society without man??
if you said male maybe it would have made sense and then how different is men and man (I assume humans) when then there are only men that fight and are the villains and get killed??
Actually not only are the males that get killed the only supposedly vicious female is Dr poison who comes out as an Ares victim (another male) who is then spared because vagina.. while the second rate hero has to die because penis..
what the fuck are you talking about free beer are you fucking drunk?? what fuck of an analogy is that? one from a moron.
Canem Cave
you are an idiot mate, just because you do not understand what Stefan says in his video about that movie, it does not mean he is wrong and you are right.
you are just an idiot with a smaller brain that's all
33shriner
Moly makes his living begging on the internet. He goes wherever the begging is best, his current incarnation as the Canadian Milo or Alex Jones is working. He had tapped out the teenage male Ayn Rand fan. Phoolosify indeed.
Zeek M
Wonder Woman makes my little girl feel strong and beautiful.
You leave Wonder Woman alone.
Dave H
Ancap Louis CK?
Tony Lester
HEY DUMBASS !!! THERE IS A SCENE WHEN THEY ARE ON THE BOAT. WONDER WOMAN SAID THAT MEN ARE ONLY GOOD FOR PROCREATION !!!! I THOUGHT THAT IS A WHAT WOMAN ARE ONLY GOOD FOR !!!
Anders Hass
Lol this title. I don't think I would give myself to watch either video, so to speak
contraband100
"men as in penis"
Baron von Stormhaven
Jim has set liberty back 3000 years by making this video. To that, I say good job, sir!!
Manwithapenis
You just don't understand Molyneux's critical genius because you were spanked.
The Observer
He put out this trash instead of making a video about the Orlando shooting.